:eek: Sacrielage! :eek:

I agree. As the film is so good there's no need (or point) in remaking it whatsoever. :thumb:

Long overdue for an uncut UK release though. :nod:

Well, it would be at least a try to remind the younger crowd of the rich European genre heritage:thumb::rockon:

The problem is though, that the younger generation will probably think it's a new fresh film and either dismiss it as run-of-the-mill fodder, unaware that it is based upon one of the first, and the best slasher films ever to be made or hype it up as an original and amazing piece of work... as is my experience with these things. :(

For instance the girl who cuts my hair was under the impression that Rob Zombie's H2 was a completely original film and was totally oblivious to the entire Halloween franchise... :eek: :ack: I almost wept.

To be fair, she's not a horror fan (so I didn't kill her this time :chainsaw:), but you just have to go over to a forum like Bloody Disgusting and look at what young horror fans are listing as their 'favourite horrors of all time' ... you certainly need a strong stomach :ack: The amount of times films like the Saws, Rob Zombie efforts and Hostel and its many spin-offs are listed... :ack: Many younger horro fans don't seem to have a clue about the genre defining classics; I just think that when they remake some of these classics they need to pay homage to the classic originals more, otherwise they get swept under the carpet and the new generation don't know that they are even there... :(

When the remake of Hills Have Eyes came out the editor of Cinema Sewer magazine did a straw poll of viewers at a multiplex in New York and something like 85% of those going to see it didn't know it was a remake . Of those who did know it was, the majority had never seen it and had no intention of seeing it.

That was their loss. The original knocks spots off the remake as most of the old ones do.

I happen to be in that lucky position that I usually enjoy both, modern genre flicks and the classics which inspired them, so I'd be curious to see how a European update of a cult fave for today's mainstream audience would look like.:pop2::biggrin:

I wish I had your optimism and excitement when it comes to remakes PN. :biggrin: Personally, every time the word 'remake' is mentioned (especially true in more recent years) I get a sinking feeling in my stomach... :ack:

That said, there are many remakes that I have enjoyed. It's the general ignorance of, and the 'glossing over' of the originals that makes me mad. :mad:

As Vince said, it's their loss. Still, it's stuff like this that may eventually push the classics into obscurity... especially if digital media takes over from DVD and Blu-Ray :ack: :ack: :ack:

Somehow I kind of doubt that, as there'll always be genre fans around who'll want to look beyond the mainstream surface- and those said classics weren't really any less obscure in the last century's "post nasties" era- the average punter cared as little about our cult faves in the late 80's/90's as they do now.:tongue1:

I'm more inclined to think that they'll come to their senses and realise that the current abortions aren't remakes at all but mainly cash-ins. Then they'll be in the 'lucky position' to revisit the originals. :nod:

Agree with you on some degree on this PN. :nod: Just seems to me that cult has become mainstream thanks to the hollywood money-making remake conveyor belt. :tongue1: When cult slashers, foreign (particularly French and Asian offerings) are getting the gilded remake treatment, and you can almost guarantee that anything remotely original and fresh that isn't US produced in some way will get a remake; and within increasingly shorter timescales (e.g REC vs. Quarantine) - is cult now becoming mainstream?? :dizzy: :chainsaw:

That's assuming they're aware that they're remakes in the first place... :(

I hope the new fans will decide to do this (if they know! :tongue1:), but due to my very sceptical, cynical view on the modern world (and not being very in touch with the youth (sorry: 'yoof') of today :lol:) my gut-feeling is very negative, unfortunately.

True genre fans will know or take the time to find out. The rest of them won't because they're easily pleased, though I'm more inclined to think they represent the minority.

Did you Sweeney Todd her I hope?:biggrin:

Can anyone name me a remake that puts the original to shame?:nono:

A remake I don't think anyone has mentioned...........April Fool's Day. A fantastic piece of filmaking (can you tell I'm being sarcastic?) And the terrible thing is,I bought it when it was released.:eek: Who wants to slap me first?

:eek: Even if you hadn't known there were lots of other Halloween movies,you would think she would know there was at lest one more.The 2 in the title or II if you like,kinda gives it away!

Im dreading the Hellraiser and Let the right one in remakes.

There were a few in the 70's/80's but they were made by talented directors for genuine genre fans. The complete opposite of today's remakes basically.

Most obvious..

Cronenberg's The Fly.
The 1950s' original was silly fun, but Crony's remake is simply one of greatest SF-horrors.

Carpenter's masterpiece The Thing.

Less obvious...

Thir13en Ghosts (2001) - despite it's flaws, some dazzling production design and effects work makes this far superior entertainment to William Castle's original 'gimmick' flick.

All fantastic remakes there, Pigasus. :nod:

Although, I personally don't think that the originals of any of the above were necessarily put to shame by the remakes. I believe that they are still good films in their own right (particularly The Thing from Another World :nod:); but I certainly agree that the remakes were better than the originals.

I've been having a think about the challenge that reaps proposed, and the only film I can think of where (IMO) the remake certainly puts the original to shame is Soderbergh's Ocean's 11. Not horror, I know but that's all I've been able to think of. The reamke was hardly an amazing piece of film-making but knocks spots of the tawdry, dull original IMO.

The Ocean sequels, however - now that's a different case entirely! :ack:

Just out of curiosity, it would be good if people could suggest a list of 'must-see' remakes (in their opinion), as sometimes it's hard to know what to watch without wanting to tear your own eyeballs out in frustration, and I'd love some suggestions... (and anyone who lists Nic Cage's Wicker Man will be lynched, eh reaps?! :chainsaw: :biggrin: :lol:)

Basically anything that wasn't remade in the Noughties. The best ones for me would be......

Invasion Of The Body Snatchers
The Fly
The Thing
The Blob
Cat People
Nosferatu

[QUOTE=DeadAlive;23820][FONT="Century Gothic"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Yellow"]I didn't mind "The Hills Have Eyes" and I thought "Dawn Of The Dead" was entertaining though not exactly a remake. (The term re-imagining keeps getting bantered about.) As for the rest I really have no time for them. I usually make the effort to see a remake just in case there is something there worth catching but it inevitably ends in disappointment. I'm yet to find a J-Horror remake worth recommending.



i totaly agree H H E was quite good even tho 2nd 1 wasnt but then again same as the originals 2nd wasnt that good ..... i also enjoyed TCM .... but 1 thing i deffo without a doubt i 100 agree on j remakes i detest them with a passion .....

The 1980s' version of The Blob is another favourite horror remake.

More recently, the House Of Wax update was good fun (read 2 reviews).

I think US remake The Ring is at least as good as Japanese Ringu.
I much prefer the remake of Dark Water to its rather weak Asian original.

Remake of The Manchurian Candidate was a very fine thriller, I think.

I will risk the Brit-flick lynch mob, and confess that I think the remake of The Italian Job is better than the greatly-overrated original.

Oh, and I must agree with vincenzo, about Cat People (with Nat Kinski!), and Nosferatu.

Some great choices so far! :biggrin:

I've seen most of the ones suggested so far, and have to agree on the majority being more than worthy of a look.

I have to disagree on The Ring remake; just awful IMO, and it kick-started the obsession of remaking almost every half-decent original Asian horror film... :rolleyes: Dark Water was another terrible (and unecessary) remake IMO. Although, I do agree that the original Dark Water is nothing special, and tends to drag a bit in places. But, the benefit of the remake is that it stars the gorgeous Jennifer Connelly... :love:

I completely forgot about the remake of The Manchurian Candidate though Pigasus - I found it to be a very good film. :nod:

My faves are undoubtedly The Fly, The Thing, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (plus Ferrara's Body Snatchers is definitely worth a look too), and Nosferatu.

Anyone have any suggestions from the more recent wave of remakes? Any diamonds in the rough? Any gems worth digging out of that colossal barrel full of remake shit for? :biggrin:

Personally, I liked the Dawn of the Dead and the TCM remake. Also, I enjoyed Zombie's Halloween remake; I have yet to see the second installment though....

I found that the remakes essentially replaced the ice-cold atmosphere and spareness of Nakata's originals with a more obvious, polished horror style and an unnecessary emphasis on exposition.

I think The Ring's CG 'shocks' seem particularly crude and lacking compared to the minimalist chills of Ringu. I'm disappointed Nakata hasn't really done anything of note since.

RZ's Zombieween is as bad as The Uninvited, Quarantine, Ring, Grudge, Dark Water etc

I loathe it with a passion. :lol:

I loved Hills Have Eyes tho and am not scared to admit, that I found the original to be quite boring really. Aja's tension and atmosphere was top notch and it was not a typical teen remake with pretty boiis and sexy gals. It was harsh, gritty and dirty just how it should be.

Also Dawn of the Dead was amazing, loved every minute of it. Other good mentions are The Echo, which was a very atmospheric and creepy little supernatural story. I not seen original but people say its as good.

Bizzaro,you're right mate the remakes mentioned above don't exactly put the originals to shame.

I was referring to modern remakes....

THE OMEN
THE FOG
THE AMITYVILLE HORROR
THE WICKER MAN
THE HILLS HAVE EYES
FRIDAY THE 13TH
HALLOWEEN
HALLOWEEN II
RING
THE GRUDGE
THE EYE
DARK WATER
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE

None of which are a patch on the originals.Not even close.;)

We'll, though I'd count myself to the "older generation" of fans, I actually found most of the recent remakes (more or less) entertaining, with the following being "my best of the bunch"- though I know that some are likely not to cut it for a lot of fans.:nod:


"The last House on the Left" (2009)
"My Bloody Valentine 3D" (2009)
"Halloween" (2007)
"Black Christmas" (2007)
"The Hills Have Eyes" (2006)
"House of Wax" (2005)
"2001 Maniacs" (2005)
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" (2003) (Though I prefer the prequel "TCM: The Beginning" (2005)
"The Toolbox Murders" (2003) (I just LOVE Angela Bettis!:blush::lol:)

Absolutely agree. I would also add the appalling & senseless remakes of Black Christmas, Toolbox Murders and Prom Night to that hall of shame. :ack:

The remakes of asian horrors A Tale Of Two Sisters and Kairo also deserve to burn with Neil LaBute in a wicker man.

I thought the remake of "Ringu" was pretty dire. And the TV crawl was not half as well done either.
Not that I'm (TV crawl aside) a huge "Ringu" fan.

Thought the remake of "Dark Water" was just a rather slow and dull film. But I've not seen the original.

I do stand up for the remake of "The Grudge" though....in it's 'Unrated Director's Cut' form.
I've not seen the original, but for me this was a perfect way of remaking a film for a wider audience as it had much of the same crew, kept many Japanese characters/actors and the setting.
And in the 'Director's Cut' at least it still managed to pack in some amazingly effective scares, creeps and shocks that felt they were out of a Japanese horror film.
Get the 'DC' and give it another shot I say.


But I am proud to say that from this list;

THE OMEN
THE FOG
THE AMITYVILLE HORROR
THE WICKER MAN
THE HILLS HAVE EYES
FRIDAY THE 13TH
HALLOWEEN
HALLOWEEN II
RING
THE GRUDGE
THE EYE
DARK WATER
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE


I have only ever seen "The Ring" (my Wife wanted to see it), "The Grudge" and "Hills" (when it was on TV).

Watched Day of The Dead last night.

Nowhere as bad as people have said, it would have been nicer as it's own zombie movie though! It had very little to do with the original.
And zombies shooting guns and climbing on walls/roofs, ha!

A wise move. :nod:

Check out Ju-on mate.
Switch out the lights and crank up the sound.
You won't be disappointed.;)

Yeah, both Ju On and the remake aren't bad at all. I do prefer Ju On, as I think the scares play better with a lower production value, but the remake is certainly of a comparable standard; it just feels a bit redundant to me after viewing the original.

I couldn't find a more appropriate thread for this, but I found a link to this list posted on another forum, which details a few remakes and reboots that are currently in the works... http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/450292/75_movie_remakes_and_reboots_currently_in_the_work s.html :eek:

Whether any of them will see a cinema screen is another matter, but the list definitely provokes some interesting, puzzling, and disparaging reactions that's for sure. :suspicious:

I read yesterday that Michael Bay was remaking Rosemary's Baby, made me a little sick!

Battle Royale could never get a good hollywood remake because of it's subject matter. teens killing teens, i would love to see this done correctly but can't see it ever happening.

Black Hole was not a very sucessful film on release, could look good with some sweet special effect like Pandorum.

Flash Gordon, all ive got to say is bring it hollywood, you ****ed up with the tv show.

Fright Night: WTF!!!!!!! leave alone

Gremlins: again no need to remake this.

Highlander: could have potential but under Fast and Furious director Justin Lin i think this will suck

The Howling: no way

Videodrome & The Brood: Cronenburg should sue....