Sickest horror movies ever made

[Angel]

Originally Posted by Halloween_22

Good luck with Mordum Angel. If you thought August Underground was bad you haven't seen anything yet. It takes sexual degradation and torture to new extremes, let me know your thoughts on it after you've seen it, I'd be interested to hear them. That's one film I reckon would get a straight rejection, you know more about it than me though so I'd be interested to know if you agree or not.

Yeah just watched it, Hal.

There is absolutely no way this film will ever pass in the UK.

And I very much doubt there would be any kind of serious discussions amongst the examiners in regards to passing it. The film will never be acceptable under UK law. The whole film is just endless sequences of extremely vile acts carried out by extremely obnoxious people. I really can't see the vomiting scene being passed. Thus far the BBFC have never actually cut such a scene but only because as far as I know, they haven't actually seen one.

So as far as passing this? No chance. I think they would be more likely to hand it over to the police. The BBFC work closely with the OPA to make sure what they pass does not infringe any obsenity laws. This film would probably be on the top of their list.

I mean seriously I have never seen a film that stands less chance of passing than this.

I'd love to know what countries would pass this and ones that would reject it.
It would definitely be banned in Australia.

I would imagine after January next year possession of this film would be a serious offence.

As for the film itself? It is just simply indescribably bad. Quite possibly the worst film I have ever seen.

[vincenzo]

After sitting through this lamentable & vile monstrosity a short while ago I'm in full agreement.

[Angel]

There would be only a very remote chance of the film being submitted here anyway.

[Halloween_22]

It really is a vile piece of work. Easily the nastiest film I've ever seen, Vogel really pushed the boat out on this one. The scene near the end involving the little girl is genuinely sickening and quite hard to stomach. It makes MSP look tame in comparison.

So were in agreement then? there's no way on earth this would ever pass the BBFC right. It couldn't even be cut as it'd end up having to be about 10 minutes long, it really is that extreme. How does it compare to Snuff 102 Angel (just out of interest) as I've heard them be compared to each other before in terms of nastiness. Which one would you say is worse as I've not seen Snuff as of yet.

I take it you won't be in any rush to watch Penance then?

[vipco]

The best way to buy Snuff 102 is direct fiom the films website Hal.

Be careful when buying though as it's on the Customs hit list. A lot of UK buyers have had it seized by HM Customs buying it from web sellers , though apparently orders from the films website WILL get through. ( Don't take my word on that though )
I read on some small fan site page that they claimed to have a full proof way to get it to the UK. They never said what it was though but there was satisfied UK buyers on the site page.

Sorry though mate as I cant remember which fan site it was though as I hit alot of new sites that nite looking for info on something else.

[Halloween_22]

Thanks for the info on Snuff 102 Vip's. I'll have to look into that as it's the next film on my extreme hitlist

[Angel]

Originally Posted by Halloween_22

It really is a vile piece of work. Easily the nastiest film I've ever seen, Vogel really pushed the boat out on this one. The scene near the end involving the little girl is genuinely sickening and quite hard to stomach. It makes MSP look tame in comparison.

So were in agreement then? there's no way on earth this would ever pass the BBFC right. It couldn't even be cut as it'd end up having to be about 10 minutes long, it really is that extreme. How does it compare to Snuff 102 Angel (just out of interest) as I've heard them be compared to each other before in terms of nastiness. Which one would you say is worse as I've not seen Snuff as of yet.

I take it you won't be in any rush to watch Penance then?

Yes I'm not going to waste time checking out Penance as it would clearly be more of the same.

Yes Mordum would be rejected without question.

Personally I would still say that Snuff 102 is the more extreme, it's just that the objectionable material isn't wall to wall like it is in Mordum. Also it comes across as being a little more serious. Mordum is just amateurish drivel.

But I very much doubt the BBFC would be prepared to pass any of the torture scenes in Snuff 102. The shot of a naked woman having her breasts nailed to a desk, the pregnant woman having her stomach stamped on with tremendous force, another woman being raped whilst she is dying and then urinated on. I have never seen a film that is so completely evil as this. It's also the grotesque way in which it was all filmed. Difficult to explain but you will know what I mean when you see it. Even the music is highly objectionable.

Mordum for me runs it a close second.

ANother problem with Mordum as far as censorship is concerned is that it simply shows 3 psychopaths torturing their victims throughout and then getting away with it. In fact the police are never even shown. Another thing I found so disturbing is the way they laugh at everything they do.

By the way re the scene in Philosophy showing a woman having her teeth extracted, in Snuff 102 there is a similar scene but over here the man uses a hammer and chisel.

[Halloween_22]

I know what you mean about Mordum being amateurish drivel. It's extremley immature in it's approach to it's very adult and extreme subject matter and dosen't seem to convey a sense of self awareness if you know what I mean.

It really is a very amateurish film which is unfortunate because I felt that August Underground, despite all it's faults, was quite the opposite. Vogel set out to make a serial killer film that was the antithesis to all the hollywood slashers that make light of serial killers and murder, personally I think he acheived that and made a genuinely shocking and realistic film. Mordum was just OTT rubbish for the sake of it.

Yeah, the way the three characters act so childish and just laugh at what they're doing wouldn't bode well in terms of censorship I imagine, nor would the fact that they get such sexual gratification from it. I thought the way they're seemingly invincible and just get away with everything was quite far fetched, I mean none of their victims even fight back (something Vogel rectified in Penance).

I don't know when I'll get my hands on a copy of Snuff 102 yet but I'll let you know when I do. The scenes you mentioned sound very nasty indeed. How is it filmed? Is it a POV/ faux snuff film like the AU series or does it have a narrative?

[Angel]

Originally Posted by Halloween_22

I know what you mean about Mordum being amateurish drivel. It's extremley immature in it's approach to it's very adult and extreme subject matter and dosen't seem to convey a sense of self awareness if you know what I mean.

It really is a very amateurish film which is unfortunate because I felt that August Underground, despite all it's faults, was quite the opposite. Vogel set out to make a serial killer film that was the antithesis to all the hollywood slashers that make light of serial killers and murder, personally I think he acheived that and made a genuinely shocking and realistic film. Mordum was just OTT rubbish for the sake of it.

Yeah, the way the three characters act so childish and just laugh at what they're doing wouldn't bode well in terms of censorship I imagine, nor would the fact that they get such sexual gratification from it. I thought the way they're seemingly invincible and just get away with everything was quite far fetched, I mean none of their victims even fight back (something Vogel rectified in Penance).

I don't know when I'll get my hands on a copy of Snuff 102 yet but I'll let you know when I do. The scenes you mentioned sound very nasty indeed. How is it filmed? Is it a POV/ faux snuff film like the AU series or does it have a narrative?

It's similar to the August Underground films, where you get these very lengthy periods of just torture, torture, torture. Nobody actually says a word. The torturer never speaks but he makes these strange animal sounds, all this just makes him seem like more of a monster, which he certainly is. Also his face is never shown, being masked throughout. I can tell you the film has a very weird soundtrack, some of it is just insensitive considering what is going on, and some if it is just downright bizarre. Strangely I did find some if it quite scary at times especially during an attempted escape. Could barely watch because you know what's going to happen.

Unfortunately I can't mention how the film ended because nobody here has seen it but there's going to be a lot to talk about regarding what happens at the end. All I can say was that it was a bit laughable.

By the way going back to Mordum - I wonder how much those actresses were paid to allow themselves to be vomited on. No way I would do anything like that. Yeah the vomiting scene (as brief as it was ) in Snuff 102 caught me off gaurd. It's a little different from Mordum.

[Philleh]

I think the women are part of Toe Tag. So probably did it for the love of their "art" - ha!