The Doctor Who Thread

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Gothmogxx

See the thing is with Doctor Who these days for me is this.

Twice Upon A Time was the last genuinely good Story of Doctor Who until The Star Beast. But the last genuinely great/masterpiece Story though was World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls. Shortly after watching it, although I didn't think much of it at the time, I considered the idea that it could've been the end. As in, the definitive ending to the show. It was sheer perfection from start to finish and he could've went out in a literal blaze of glory blowing up the Cybermen. But hey, I looked forward to Whitaker years and how it was supposed to feel like the classic series.

I really did consider World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls as the end

I still consider World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls as the end. Twice Upon a Time is a nice aside as the Doctor was dying for that final time and he got to see his earliest self one last time to bring it full circle.

That's why my Image of the Day posts only go as far as Capaldi.

There have been some excellent episodes since but the show has changed almost beyond recognition since Moffat left. I too was hoping RT-D would be a reboot but it's actually getting worse tone wise albeit with one or two good episodes thrown in.

I haven't bought a single season on dvd / Blu since Capaldi finished there's just not enough decent material to warrant buying them anymore although i have bought the three Dalek New Years specials as they were all good in my opinion.

Davies never could manage a decent finale to his often brilliant set up episodes and Empire of Death was no exception. It was fun to watch and let it sail over you but dear God! Never, ever, go back and think about it. It's bloody awful story telling.

[will graham]

It seems even those who liked last season felt that the last episode was weak and almost as bad as space babies.

I really do think this show is going into hibernation again, I'm not buying rtd's spin about popular with younger audience.

All I can say is that its not as bad as the whittaker era. There were some good moments (that last look he has at end of dot and bubble) but I do think the creative forces behind the show (including those at BBC that suggest ideas) have no idea.

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #1538a / Nu-Who #597a

Name: Debra Baker [1968 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Housekeeper

Before Who:
Films: The Butterfly Tattoo (2009), Junkhearts (2011), Fast Freddie, the Widow and Me (2011), Diana (2013), Voyage (2013), Night Bus (2014), Tales of the Supernatural (2014), London Road (2015), Angel (2015), Condemned (2015), 90 Minutes (2019), Lie Low (2019), Body of Water (2020), The Last House (2023)
Television: EastEnders (2011) / Call the Midwife (2012) / Doctors [3 episodes, different characters (2012-2021)] / PhoneShop: Do The Music (2013) / My Town (2013) / Birds of a Feather: Slave (2014) / The Javone Prince Show (2015) / The Five (2016) / Close to the Enemy (2016) / Sliced [2 episodes as Linda (2019)] / Home (2020) / Bruised Sky: Beef (2020) / Holby City (2020) / It's a Sin [2 episodes as Mrs. McKenzie (2021)] / King Gary: Conquorers (2021) / The Emily Atack Show: Holidays (2021)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: Supacell [3 episodes as Matron Tracey (2024)]

Who: Before And After #1538b / Nu-Who #598b

Name: Ashley Campbell [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Butler

Before Who:
Films: Jam (2006)
Television: Holby City: Mum's The Word (2003) / The Mysti Show [21 episodes as Ollie (2004)] / William and Mary (2005) / Ultimate Force: Violent Solutions (2006) / Hollyoaks Later* [3 episodes as Wayne Connor (2009)] / Hollyoaks (2011) / My Town (2013) / Scott & Bailey: Damaged (2014) / Doctors [4 episodes, different characters (2018-2023)] / Father Brown: The Celestial Choir (2020) / Bridgerton: Ocean's Apart (2020) / Call the Midwife (2021) / Coronation Street* [5 episodes as D.C. Wiley (2021-2023)] /

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1538c / Nu-Who #597c

Name: Nancy Brabin-Platt [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Miss Talbot

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: None

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1538d / Nu-Who #597d

Name: David Charles [1961 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Mr. Price

Note(s): Appeared in the Big Finish Productions 'Jago & Litefoot' audio story 'The Flying Frenchman'

Before Who:
Films: Kenneth Williams: Fantabulosa! [as Charles Hawtrey] (2006)
Television: Chillers: A Curious Suicide (1990) / The Old Devils: Love, Lust And Litre Bottles (1992) / Grange Hill (1995) / Operavox: The Barber Of Seville [voice only] (1995) / The Bill: Waiting For Frank (1996) / The Bench (2001) / Wild West: One Home Good, Two Homes Bad (2002) / The Story of Tracy Beaker: The Bygrave (2004) / Doc Martin: Aromatherapy (2005) / High Hopes: A Touch Of Class (2005) / Sense & Sensibility (2008) / 10 Days to War: Failure Is Not an Option (2008) / Locked Up Abroad: India ? Hostage To Terror (2008) / The Inside Man: Surprise (Document Disposal) (2019) / The Crown [2 episodes as George Thomas (2019)] / Honour (2020) / Documentary Now!: How They Threw Rocks (2022) / Masters of the Air (2024)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Davros (Terry Molloy) in Revelation of the Daleks (1985)

[Mojo]

Definitely one of my favourite Dalek stories.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Mojo

Definitely one of my favourite Dalek stories.

Crazy as it seems the final two Dalek stories are my favourites from the first 26 years.

[Susan Foreman]

Guest actors appearing in THE LEGEND OF RUBY SUNDAY who have previously appeared in the show:

• Millie Gibson (Ruby Sunday)
• Bonnie Langford (Melanie Bush)
• jemma Redgrave (Kate Stewart)
• Yasmin Finney (Rose Noble)
• Alexander Devrient (Colonel Ibrahim)
• Aiden Cook (The Vlinx)
• Nicholas Briggs (Voice Of The Vlinx)
• Susan Twist (Susan Triad)
• Michelle Greenidge (Carla Sunday)
• Anita Dobson (Mrs. Flood)
• Angela Wynter (Cherry Sunday)
• Gabriel Woolf (Voice Of Sutekh)

Who: Before And After #1539a / Nu-Who #598a

Name: Lenny Rush [2009 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: The Legend Of Ruby Sunday - Empire Of Death
Character(s): Morris Gibbons

Note(s):

• Was originally cast as the voice of Eric in 'Space Babies', but he impressed Russell T. Davies so much, he was cast in a larger role
• In real life, he has a medical condition called spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia congenita which affects his growth, resulting in dwarfism

Before Who:
Films: Old Vic: In Camera - A Christmas Carol (2020), Enola Holmes 2 (2022), Haunting of the Queen Mary (2023), The Kemps: All Gold (2023)
Television: Apple Tree House [4 episodes as Eli (2018-2019)] / A Christmas Carol [3 episodes as Tiny Tim (2019) / The Dumping Ground [7 episodes as Murphy (2021-2022)] / Am I Being Unreasonable?* [6 episodes as Ollie (2022) / Dodger* [10 episodes as Morgan / Crossing Sweeper (2022-2023)] / Best Interests (2023) / Taskmaster: New Years Treat IV [as a contestant] (2024) / CBeebies Bedtime Story: Not Now, Bernard [as the Storyteller] (2024) / W1A: Comic Relief Special (2024) / Renegade Nell: Tracks Less Well Trod (2024)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1539b / Nu-Who #598b

Name: Genesis Lynea [1989 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: The Legend Of Ruby Sunday - Empire Of Death
Character(s): Harriet Arbinger

Before Who
Films: None
Television: 4 O'Clock Club [14 episodes as Maddie Harper (2018-2019)] / Casualty* [36 episodes as Archie Hudson (2019-2020)] / A Discovery of Witches [4 episodes as Geraldine Newcopse (2019-2022)] / Shadow and Bone: A Searing Burst Of Light (2021) / Silent Witness [10 episodes as Dr. Simone Tyler (2021-2022)] / The Baby [4 episodes as Sam (2022)] / Death in Paradise* [3 episodes as Andrina Harper (2023-2024)] / You & Me [4 episodes as Dee (2023-2024)] / Champion [6 episodes as Tayo (2023)] / Halo: Sanctuary (2024)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1539c / Nu-Who #598c

Name: Fela Lufadeju [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: The Legend Of Ruby Sunday - Empire Of Death
Character(s): Bailey Sinclair

Before Who:
Films: White Girl (2016)
Television: I May Destroy You: Social Media Is A Great Way To Conect (2020) / Santiago [8 episodes as Michael (2022)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1539d / Nu-Who #598d

Name: Tachia Newall [1990 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: The Legend Of Ruby Sunday - Empire Of Death
Character(s): Colonel Winston Lemuel Chidozie

Before Who:
Films: Hamlet (2015), Dirty God (2019), Dune (2021)
Television: Waterloo Road* [57 episodes as Bolton Smilie (2007-2013)] / Doctors: A Spoonful (2010) / Moving On: Trust (2010) / Coronation Street [3 episodes, different characters (2010-2012)] / Waterloo Road Reunited [6 episodes as Bolton Smilie (2011)] / Young Dracula: Bad Vlad (2011) / Scott & Bailey: Superficial (2014) / Casualty [2 episodes, different characters (2014-2022)] / Vera: Changing Tides (2015) / From Darkness [3 episodes as DC Jamie Salter (2015)] / Armchair Detectives: Driving Miss Mortcliffe (2017) / Silent Witness: Family (2018) / Age Before Beauty (2018) / Dodger: Nancy (2022) / Life After Life (2022) / Pennyworth* [4 episodes as Jez (2022)] / Brassic: Caravan Of Courage (2023)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1539e / Nu-Who #598e

Name: Jasmine Bayes [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: The Legend Of Ruby Sunday - Empire Of Death
Character(s): Corporal Alice Sullivan

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: Platform 7 (2023) / Father Brown: The Hermit of Hazelnut Cottage (2024) / Vera: Salt And Vinegar (2024)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) was on the cover of the 273rd issue of Doctor Who Magazine which was released on 17 December 1998

[Susan Foreman]

Guest actors appearing in EMPIRE OF DEATH who have previously appeared in the show:

• Millie Gibson (Ruby Sunday)
• Gabriel Woolf (Voice Of Sutekh)
• Susan Twist (Susan Triad)
• Bonnie Langford (Melanie Bush)
• Jemma Redgrave (Kate Stewart)
• Yasmin Finney (Rose Nobel)
• Genesis Lynea (Harriet Arbringer)
• Lenny Rush (Morris Gibbons)
• Aidan Cook (The Vlinx)
• Nicholas Briggs (Voice Of The Vlinx)
• Alexander Devrient (Colonel Ibrahims)
• Jasmine Bayes (Corporal Alice Sullivan)
• Anita Dobson (Mrs Flood)
• Michelle Greenidge (Carla Sunday)
• Angela Wynter (Cherry Sunday)
• Amol Rajan (Amol Rajan)
• Aneurin Barnard (Roger ap Gwilliam)
• Tachia Newall (Corpora Winston Lenuel Chidozie)
• Fela Lufadeju (Bailey Sinclair)

Who: Before And After #1540a / Nu-Who #599a

Name: Sian Clifford [1982 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Empire Of Death
Character(s): Kind Woman

Before Who:
Films: A Serial Killer's Guide to Life (2019), The Duke (2020), Good Grief (2021), See How They Run (2022), Chevalier (2022), The Magician's Elephant [voice only] (2023), UnEarthed (2023), Young Woman and the Sea (2024)
Television: Dark Matters - Twisted But True [2 episodes as Ida Thomas (2012)] / Midsomer Murders: Schooled In Murder (2013) / Fleabag*[12 episodes as Claire (2016-2019)] / Vanity Fair [5 episodes as Martha Crawley (2018)] / Hitmen: Money (2020) / Liar [2 episodes as Ruby Allen (2020)] / Quiz* [3 episodes as Diana Ingram (2020)] / Two Weeks to Live [6 episodes as Tina Noakes (2020)] / Inside No. 9: Lip Service (2021) / Robot Chicken: May Cause Numb Butthole [voice only] (2021) / Star Wars - The Bad Batch [2 episodes as the voice of GS-8 (2021-2024)] / Life After Life [4 episodes as Sylvie (2022)] / The Suspect [4 episodes as Fenwick (2022)] / His Dark Materials [3 episodes as Agent Salmakia (2022)] / A Whole Lifetime with Jamie Demetriou (2023) / Unstable [8 episodes as Anna (2023)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1540b / Nu-Who #599b

Name: Faye McKeever [1985 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Empire Of Death
Character(s): Louise Miller

Before Who:
Films: Torn Up Tales (2008), Pond Life (2018), Pace (2020)
Television: In the City [2 episodes as Donna Marie (2006)] / Massive [6 episodes as Marie (2008)] / Unforgiven [3 episodes as Hannah Whelan (2009)] / The Street: Loss Of Control (2009) / Shameless: Marry Me (2010) / A Passionate Woman (2010) / In with the Flynns: The Hardest Cut (2011) / Mount Pleasant (2011) / Trollied* [65 episodes as Linda Stubbings (2011-2018)] / No Offence (2015) / Holby City: Where We Belong (2016) / The Moorside [2 episodes as Petra Jamieson (2017)] / Little Boy Blue [4 episodes as Claire Olssen (2017)] / Broken [3 episodes as Caroline Powell (2017)] / Overshadowed [2 episodes as Louise (2017)] / Moving On: A Walk In My Shoes (2019) / A Confession [5 episodes as Deborah Peach (2019)] / Plebs: The Wedding (2019) / The Salisbury Poisonings [2 episodes as Jayne McNaughten (2020)] / Des [3 episodes as Linda Jay (2020)] / Death in Paradise: Lucky In Love (2021) / The Responder [9 episodes as Jodie Sweeney (2022-2024)] / The Reckoning [3 episodes as Alison (2023)] / Time [3 episodes as Tanya Helsby (2023)] / After the Flood [5 episodes as Kelly (2024)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

[Susan Foreman]

And thus ends the 'Doctor Who' actors before and after section

Starting tomorrow... something else !