SHAM031/SHAM201 - Cannibal Holocaust: The BBFC Advice & Decision

[Daemonia]

Originally Posted by platostotal

good point 'Stephen', Fulci's 'nightmare concert' banned outright in 98/99 passed uncut few years later, why censorship is so daft, be cool to see Shameless get hold of 'Ferox' and submit it, just cause 'Holocaust' is the much better work shouldn't mean it gets an easier ride, snake/muskrat scene would still go but Kerova's end might squeak thru as more torture than erotic, but won't hold my breath, interesting none the less to see how their treatment would compare, just off now to have some turtle soup.

Ferox would be viewed completely differently, I suspect. There's the element of cruelty present in most of the scenes of animal violence. Stabbing of the pig etc.

[nekromantik]

i not seen ferox heard its pretty bad

This is a truly a landmark for British censorship
I would love to know what reason the BBFC would give for the turtle scene to be not animal cruelty.

[platostotal]

they seem to say that it was killed quickly and eaten, so no suffering, wonder if the same aplies to actors or justin beiber, heh heh.

[nekromantik]

Originally Posted by platostotal

they seem to say that it was killed quickly and eaten, so no suffering, wonder if the same aplies to actors or justin beiber, heh heh.

ha ha
thats clearly not true you can see it is suffering.
If it was killed first in a humane way then cut open then yes it would be no suffering. but thats just my view.

[platostotal]

look for 'PaulD's post on this thread for a link to detailed reason for the passing of the turtle scene uncut, I find the scene sad myself, I might watch it later to see if their description is as i remember, and yes ferox is a true nasty, tho giovani is a hoot as coke addeled baddie.

[trench]

Originally Posted by nekromantik

ha ha
thats clearly not true you can see it is suffering.
If it was killed first in a humane way then cut open then yes it would be no suffering. but thats just my view.

The head was severed from the body pretty cleanly, the turtle won't have known what happened to the rest of its body after that, any movement is simply motor-function. Put it like this, if someone cut your head off in one go (save for a little skin), then started hacking up your body do you think you would suffer? I don't, because you wouldn't feel anything.

[nekromantik]

yes but it still suffered in those few seconds of getting its head chopped off.
i am knitpicking but I am a vegi after all

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

The turtle's scene is not so different from the one with the chicken in Hidden as that was a 'quick kill' and you can clearly see the chicken moving long after its head was removed.

[Pete]

The snake in BLOODY MOON is decapitated but it's head is still moving when the camera zooms in on it.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Pete

The snake in BLOODY MOON is decapitated but it's head is still moving when the camera zooms in on it.

That's true -- was it dead at the time or are snakes like worms? I would guess that the former is the case and the movement was just a motor reflex. However, I would bow to the judgement of someone who owns snakes and knows a great deal about them.