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[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #845

Name: Denys Hawthorne [1932 - 2009]
Year(s): 1986
Stories: The Trial Of A Time Lord part 9: Terror Of The Vervoids part 1 – The Trial Of A Time Lord part 12: Terror Of The Vervoids Part 4
Character(s): Rudge

Before Who:
Films: Henrietta, M.D. (1956), Roll on the Boat (1961), The Randy Dandy (1961), The Swappers (1970), Suburban Wives (1972), The Human Factor (1979), The Long March (1980), An Englishman Abroad (1983), Amy (1984), A Private Function (1984), The Hidden Curriculum (1984), A Woman Calling (1984), Honeymoon (1985), The Daily Woman (1986)
Television: BBC Sunday-Night Theatre: Shadow of Heroes (1959) / ITV Play of the Week: The Search Party (1960) / Festival: Bloomsday (1964) / The Wednesday Play: Cemented with Love (1965) / Dr. Finlay's Casebook: The Deceivers (1965) / Sunday Night: Shaw and Women (1966) / Theatre 625: Sword of Honour #3: Unconditional Surrender (1967) / Thirty-Minute Theatre: Invasion (1969) / On Trial: Roger Casement - A Question of Allegiance (1970) / The Sinners [2 episodes as Sean Whelan (1970)] / Armchair Theatre: Ireland, Mother Ireland (1971) / New Scotland Yard: Property, Dogs & Women (1973) / Black and Blue: High Kampf (1973) / Sporting Scenes: When the Boys Come Out to Play (1974) / 2nd House: Never Give a Sucker an Even Break (1974) / Within These Walls [51 episodes as Dr. Peter Mayes (1974-1978)] / Churchill's People: The Coming of the Cross (1975) / Spy Trap: The Cornet and the Beast (1975) / Grange Hill (1978) / It Ain't Half Hot Mum: The Dhobi Wallahs (1978) / Heartland: Working Arrangements (1980) / Strumpet City [6 episodes as Mr. Yearling (1980)] / The Life and Times of David Lloyd George [3 episodes as John Dillon (1981)] / Chronicle: The Crime of Captain Colthurst (1981) / Les roses de Dublin [6 episodes as Arthur Hogan (1981)] / Crown Court; Talking to the Enemy (1982) / Play for Tomorrow: Easter 2016 (1982) / Harry's Game [2 episodes as the Minister of Defence (1982)] / The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: The Crooked Man (1984) / Play for Today: The Cry (1984) / The Man from Moscow [3 episodes as Newson (1985)] / The Price (1985) / Ties of Blood: Attachments (1985) / The Fourth Floor [3 episodes as Cannock (1986)] / The Theban Plays by Sophocles: Oedipus the King (1986)

After Who:
Films: The Great Paper Chase (1986), Blanc de Chine (1988), Australia (1989), Shoot to Kill (1990), The Russia House* (1990), The House of the Spirits (1993), In the Name of the Father (1993), Emma (1996), Monk Dawson (1998),

Television: Rumpole of the Bailey: Rumpole and the Bright Seraphim (1987) / Crossfire [4 episodes as Daniel Kent (1988)] / Troubles [2 episodes as Boy O'Neill (1988)] / Jack the Ripper* [2 episodes as the Assistant Commissioner (1988)] / This Is David Lander: Reduced to Tears (1988) / Poirot: Four and Twenty Blackbirds (1989) / Hannay: Double Jeopardy (1989) / Chelworth: Taking Your Profits (1989) / Inspector Morse: The Infernal Serpent (1990) / Screenplay: The Englishman's Wife (1990) / Capital City [14 episodes as James Farrell (1989-1990)] / Moon and Son: The Place of the Cold Fires (1992) / Dandelion Dead [4 episodes as Curtis-Bennett (1994)] / The Bill: Ritual (1995) / Dangerfield: The Norfolk Holiday (1995) / Father Ted: Tentacles of Doom (1996) / Every Woman Knows a Secret (1999) / Caesar (2004)

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The Toymaker (Michael Gough) and the Doctor (William Hartnell) in The Celestial Toymaker (1966)

[Susan Foreman]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

The Toymaker (Michael Gough) and the Doctor (William Hartnell) in The Celestial Toymaker (1966)

That is the William Hartnell story that I want to see the most

I think that Doctor Who works really well when it moves into the realms of surrealism, and everything that is considered to be 'right and normal' is thrown out of the window

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #846a

Name: Yolande Palfrey [1947 - 2011]
Year(s): 1986
Stories: The Trial Of A Time Lord part 9: Terror Of The Vervoids part 1 – The Trial Of A Time Lord part 12: Terror Of The Vervoids Part 4
Character(s): Janet

Before Who:
Films: Valentino (1977), Dragonslayer* (1981)

Television: Don't Forget to Write!: A Friend in Need (1977) / The Ghosts of Motley Hall: Phantomime (1977) / Wings: No Medals (1978) / Pennies from Heaven [2 episodes as the Blind Girl (1978)] / Blake's 7: Pressure Point (1979) / The BBC Television Shakespeare: Measure for Measure (1979) / Crime and Punishment [2 episodes as Sonia Marmeladovna (1979)] / Jackanory Playhouse: The Crystal Well (1980) / Love in a Cold Climate [4 episodes as Jassy (1980)] / BBC2 Playhouse: Elizabeth Alone (1981) / Theatre Box: You Must Believe All This (1981) / ITV Playhouse: The Breadwinner (1982) / Nanny [3 episodes as Lady Sophia (1982-1983)] / Andy Robson: Masquerade (1983) / Shelley: The Party (1983) / Jackanory: The 13 Clocks (1983) / Starting Out [7 episodes as Eileen Barnes (1985-1986)]

After Who:
Films: The Princess Academy (1987)
Television: Indelible Evidence: Gaslight (1987) / Dramarama: In the Pink (1989) / You Rang, M'Lord?: The Night of Reckoning (1991)

Who: Before And After #846b

Name: Tony Scoggo [1936 - ]
Year(s): 1986
Stories: The Trial Of A Time Lord part 9: Terror Of The Vervoids part 1 – The Trial Of A Time Lord part 10: Terror Of The Vervoids Part 2
Character(s): Hallett [aka Grenville aka Enzu]

Before Who:
Films: No Surrender (1985)
Television: Play for Today: United Kingdom (1981) / Boys from the Blackstuff: George's Last Ride (1982) / Brookside [40 episodes as Matty Nolan (1982-1992)] / Give us a Break: Hustle Bustle Toil and Muscle (1984)

After Who:
Films: Out of Order (1987)
Television: Bread [2 episodes, different characters (1986-1989) / Hearts and Minds [2 episodes as Caretaker (1995)]

Who: Before And After #846c

Name: Simon Slater [1969 - ]
Year(s): 1986
Stories: The Trial Of A Time Lord part 9: Terror Of The Vervoids part 1 – The Trial Of A Time Lord part 12: Terror Of The Vervoids Part 4
Character(s): Edwardes

Note(s): Appeared is a number of Big Finish Audio adventures:

• in the 'Doctor Who Main Range' story 'Devil in the Mist'
• In the 'Sixth Doctor Adventures' story 'The Murder of Oliver Akkron'
• In the 'Eighth Doctor: The Time War' story 'The Lords of Terror'
• In the 'Missy' story 'A Spoonful of Mayhem'

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: Solo One; The Man from Happy Valley (1976) / Chopper Squad: Cliff Hanger (1978)

After Who:
Films: Dealers (1989), The Fool (1990), Waiting (1995), Horatio Hornblower: The Fire Ship (1998), Combat Sheep (2001), Angel Cake (2006), The Iron Lady (2011), 5 Greedy Bankers (2016)
Television: The Bill [12 episodes as Inspector Kite (1987] / Casualty [4 episodes, different characters (1984-2013)] / London's Burning (1989) / Inspector Morse: The Sins of the Fathers (1990) / Spatz: Toni's Tall Tale (1990) / Birds of a Feather: Falling in Love Again (1990) / Lovejoy: One Born Every Minute (1991) / Sam Saturday [5 episodes as DI Griffiths (1992)] / Chef!: Fame Is the Spur (1993) / The Chief ]3 episodes as David Kendal (1994)] / Men of the World: Match of the Day (1994) / Magic Grandad: Famous People - Louis Braille (1994) / Peak Practice: Tender (1995) / McCallum: The Key to My Heart (1995) / The Detectives [2 episodes, different characters (1995-1996)] / The Fragile Heart [2 episodes as Calder (1996)] / Grange Hill (1997) / Heartbeat [2 episodes, different characters (1997-2003)] / Invasion Earth: The Last War (1998) / Out of Sight [4 episodes as Mr. Lucas (1998)] / Monarch of the Glen [3 episodes as Fleming (2000-2001)] / Adrian Mole - The Cappuccino Years (2001) / In a Land of Plenty [4 episodes as Tinniswood (2001)] / Manchild (2003) / Sweet Medicine (2003) / Shane (2004) / Where the Heart Is: Moon River (2004) / Doctors [4 episodes, different characters (2006-2017)] / Hotel Babylon (2006) / Spooks: The Deal (2007) / Scott & Bailey (2014) / Mr Selfridge (2016) / Holby City [19 episodes as Russell 'Russ' Faber (2021-2022)]

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by Susan Foreman

That is the William Hartnell story that I want to see the most

I think that Doctor Who works really well when it moves into the realms of surrealism, and everything that is considered to be 'right and normal' is thrown out of the window

I agree - The Mind Robber is one of my favourite Pat Troughton stories.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

From a different perspective i don't agree.

I don't rate The Mind Robber at all, nor what i've heard of The Celestial Toymaker. Other out there stories such as Warriors Gate and Heaven Sent are also not to my taste.

Give me historicals like The Romans over The Celestial Toymaker any day. And The Mind Robber isn't in the same league as The Invasion, Power of the Daleks, The Web of Fear or Fury from the Deep.

I'm not saying they are poor stories or anyone who loves them is wrong, no, nothing like that, purely that i don't rate them.

That's the beauty of Doctor Who. Something for everyone if they give it a chance.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

That image of Yolande Palfrey from Dragonslayer...



....ANGEL BLAKE.

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

From a different perspective i don't agree.

I don't rate The Mind Robber at all, nor what i've heard of The Celestial Toymaker. Other out there stories such as Warriors Gate and Heaven Sent are also not to my taste.

Give me historicals like The Romans over The Celestial Toymaker any day. And The Mind Robber isn't in the same league as The Invasion, Power of the Daleks, The Web of Fear or Fury from the Deep.

I'm not saying they are poor stories or anyone who loves them is wrong, no, nothing like that, purely that i don't rate them.

That's the beauty of Doctor Who. Something for everyone if they give it a chance.

When it comes to Pat Troughton, The Invasion is the tops - an absolute classic and still the best ever Cybermen story, imo.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

A production storyboard featuring Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman) and the Hath for the 2007 story The Doctor's Daughter.

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #847

Name: Malcolm Tierney [1938 - 2014]
Year(s): 1986
Stories: The Trial Of A Time Lord part 9: Terror Of The Vervoids part 1 – The Trial Of A Time Lord part 12: Terror Of The Vervoids Part 4
Character(s): Doland

Note(s):

• Had previously been considered for the roles of The Minster Of Persuasion in the 1982 story 'Four to Doomsday' and the roles of Scobie, Bilton and Sheard in the 1982 story 'Time-Flight'
• Appeared in the Big Finish 'Doctor Who' audio stories 1001 Nights (2012), and 'My Brother's Keeper' (2012)

Before Who:
Films: Macbeth (1966), Last of the Long-haired Boys (1968), All Neat in Black Stockings (1969), Family Life (1971), The Wild Little Bunch (1973), The Eagle Has Landed (1976), Star Wars* (1977), The Medusa Touch* (1978), McVicar (1980), The Barretts of Wimpole Street (1982), Where's the Key? (1983), Pope John Paul II (1984)

Television: No Hiding Place: Varnish on Three Fingers (1964) / The Human Jungle: Solo Performance (1964) / Z Cars [2 episodes, different characters (1964-1973)] / Joan of Arc [2 episodes, different characters (1964)] / The Plane Makers: Only a Few Millions (1964) / Public Eye: You Think It'll Be Marvellous - But It's Always a Rabbit (1965) / The New Inferno (1966) / ITV Play of the Week: Love on the Dole (1967) / Escape: Private Enterprise (1967) / ITV Playhouse: The John Hilarian Salt Exhibition and Numerous Illustrated Slides (1969) / Out of the Unknown: The Sons and Daughters of Tomorrow (1971) / Play for Today: Stocker's Copper (1972) / The Main Chance: Not in Today's Army (1972) / Late Night Theatre: The Death of Captain Doughty (1973) / Omnibus: The Runaway (1973) / The Love School: The Brotherhood (1975) / The Sweeney: Down to You, Brother (1976) / Sister Dora (1977) / Poldark [4 episodes as Monk Adderley (1977)] / Strangers [2 episodes, different characters (1978-1980)] / Lillie: The Sailor Prince (1978) / Crime and Punishment [2 episodes as Zametov (1979)] / The Spoils of War [13 episodes as Richard Warrington (1980-1981)] / Crown Court: Cold Turkey (1981) / The Home Front [3 episodes as Garfield Place (1983)] / Spyship [3 episodes as Harding (1983)] / All the World's a Stage: Silk Stockings and White Bosoms (1984) / The Gentle Touch: Secrets (1984) / Brookside [11 episodes as Tommy McArdle (1984)] / C.A.T.S. Eyes: With Vinegar and Brown Paper (1985) / Bergerac: What Dreams May Come? (1985) / Prospects: Uncle Harry's System (1986) / Big Deal: Panel Money (1986)

After Who:
Films: Little Dorrit (1987), In the Name of the Father (1993), Braveheart (1995), The Apocalypse Watch (1997), The Saint (1997), L.A. Without a Map (1998), A Life for a Life (1998), Shiner (2000), NCS: Manhunt (2001), The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby (2001), The Final Curtain (2002), When Hitler Invaded Britain (2004), The Fever (2004), McLibel (2005), Hindenburg (2007), The Unsinkable Titanic ]as Captain Edward Smith (2008)], Great Expectations (2012), Two Days in the Smoke (2014), New Chilling Tales: The Anthology (2019)
Television: Room at the Bottom [2 episodes as Dr. Barton (1986)] / Lovejoy [28 episodes as Charlie Gimbert (1986-1993)] / The Bretts: Get Me to the Church on Time (1987) / Hannay: Death with Due Notice (1988) /A Bit of a Do [5 episodes as Geoffrey Ellsworth-Smythe (1989)] / House of Cards [4 episodes as Patrick Woolton (1990)] / The Ruth Rendell Mysteries: Put on by Cunning (1990)] / Van der Valk: The Ties That Bind (1992) / Crime Story: Gone Too Far - The Mystery of Mrs. Muriel McKay (1992) / Expert Witness: The Gambler (1996) / The Bill [2 episodes as Ralph Moles (1998)] / The Broker's Man: Horses for Courses (1998) / Dalziel and Pascoe [5 episodes as DCC Raymond (1999)] / The Wilsons (2000) / Heartbeat: Home to Roost (2001) / Holby City: All My Sins (2002) / The Wonderful World of Disney: Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister (2002) / Night & Day: Means to an End (2002) / Midsomer Murders: The Fisher King* (2004) / Doctors: Mummy Dearest (2008) / Wallander: Sidetracked (2008)