The Doctor Who Thread

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by will graham

Did anyone else think the idea of the story was pretty much Curse of Fenric only this time he didn't see it coming? Agreed it's the best story and well done for them having tricked everyone but still feel like they looked and Fenric and redesigned it.

You know this doctor isn't really good at being a bad ass compared to the others.

I watched Pyramids of Mars last night and Gatwa isn't in the same league as Tom Baker.

Him and Whitaker are in a little league of their own battling it out for the rank of worst Doctor. And to be honest i'm not sure who'd win (or lose) that one.

I don't see the Doctor when i see him perform. To begin with i thought he's pretty good following The Giggle but increasingly he's seeming less so. Although yesterdays was his best performance to date.

Of course it would help if three quarters of Davies scripts weren't garbage.

[gag]

Originally Posted by will graham

Did anyone else think the idea of the story was pretty much Curse of Fenric only this time he didn't see it coming? Agreed it's the best story and well done for them having tricked everyone but still feel like they looked and Fenric and redesigned it.

You know this doctor isn't really good at being a bad ass compared to the others.

I haven't watched any of this series, I saw half of first one thought it was terrible and turned it off, haven't read or head much good about it so put me off watching it.

[iank]

2.02 million. Lowest ever (keep saying that) and for the first part of a finale.
Ouch.

[Susan Foreman]

Originally Posted by iank

2.02 million. Lowest ever (keep saying that) and for the first part of a finale.

But that is only representative of people who watched the BBC One live television broadcast without taking into account those who watched it on the BBC iPlayer between it's midnight release and it's 7pm screening

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Susan Foreman

But that is only representative of people who watched the BBC One live television broadcast without taking into account those who watched it on the BBC iPlayer between it's midnight release and it's 7pm screening

Which going off past episodes has been somewhere between 150-200K

[iank]

Yeah, it's a flop even with fiddled figures.

[Susan Foreman]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

Which going off past episodes has been somewhere between 150-200K

That I cannot comment on, but again... those figures would only consist of UK viewers and not those who watched it in the US (which would presumably be a hell of a lot more now the programme has been picked up by the Disney corporation)

[will graham]

Well the problem is disney and other streamers have never been honest about viewing numbers, very creative (ie netflix used to based number of viewers on how many watched the first 3 mins of a film/show)

The dumb space babies episode broke into disneys top 10 in every country. Although we know it hasn't made it into top 10 for all streamers (then again it doesn't cost half as much as the bigger shows).

Rtd has spoken about this he admits initial viewing numbers are "disappointing" his says month long numbers are more then double opening week. If that's true then what this means is the excitement and urgency to see an episode before hearing spoilers is not here at all.

Rtd also claims that the viewership numbers are great for younger age people (which he claims was his target audience which does explain alot) and for doctors future. If that's true then merchandise will save it.

But I'm just not convinced. This just feels like too much deja vu of what happened last time it got cancelled (except those last 2 seasons picked up and again Fenric one of the 10 best stories).

I still think next season will be last. Yeah it's one of bbc's biggest exports but so's Father Brown and that's a hell of a lot cheaper to make!

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Lowest overnights of 61 years of Doctor Who.

1. The Legend of Ruby Sunday 2.02m
2. Boom 2.04m
3. Rogue 2.11m
4. Dot and Bubble 2.12m
5. Legend of the Sea Devils 2.20m
6. The Devil's Chord 2.40m
7. Space Babies 2.60m
8. 73 Yards 2.62m
9. The Eaters of Light 2.89m
10. The Lie of the Land 3.01m

11. Battlefield Pt 1 3.10m


At least McCoy is grateful RTD came back!

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The lovely cover artwork of the latest Doctor Who Magazine special edition about the complete novels range. This came out last Thursday and comes with a free audio book in a proper cd case. It's priced at ?11.99 so a bit of a bargain if you fancy an audio cd.

I've seen people say they have got cd's of Underworld, Frontios, The Ark in Space, Curse of Fenric, Enlightenment and so on.