The Doctor Who Thread

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

One of the collectors covers for issue one of the Titan comics series The Lost Dimension, released in September 2017.

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #1535a / Nu-Who #594a

Name: Pete MacHale [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Gothic Paul

Before Who:
Films: Choose or Die (2022)
Television: The Feed [7 episodes as Leon (2019)] / Gangs of London [3 episodes as Teenage Billy (2020)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1535b / Nu-Who #594b

Name: Max Boast [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Dr. Pee

Before Who:
Films: Homestay (2020), The Pebble and the Boy: The Pebble And The Boy (2021)
Television: Sex Education* [2 episodes as Tom Baker (2019)] / The Great: Walnut Season (2021) / Bridgerton: Forces of Nature (2024)

Music Video: Tom Walker (2018): My Way

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1535c / Nu-Who #594c

Name: Elloise Bennett [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Rotterdam Twin 1

Note(s): Is the sister of Who actress Olivia Bennett

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: None

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1535d / Nu-Who #594d

Name: Olivia Bennett [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Rotterdam Twin 2

Note(s): Is the sister of Who actress Elloise Bennett

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: None

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1535e / Nu-Who #594e

Name: Jack Forsyth-Noble [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Weatherman Will

Note(s): Appeared in a number of Big Finish Productions audio adventures:

• In the 'Lost Stories' adventure 'The Ultimate Evil'
• In the 'Twelfth Doctor Chronicles' story 'Never the End Is'
• In the 'New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield' stories 'Willkommen' / 'Wulf'
• In the 'War Master' story 'The Kicker'
• In the 'Torchwood ? Monthly Range' stories 'Dead Plates' / 'Death in Venice'

Before Who:
Films: Big Face, Little Face (2018), Descarrilados (2021), Upon the Edge (2022), From Suffolk with Love (2022), Casting Kill (2023), The Restoration (2024)
Television: Humanity [6 episodes as Max (2020)] / Coronation Street (2021) / Life After Life [4 episodes as George Glover (2022)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1535f / Nu-Who #594f

Name: Milo Callaghan [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Alan K Sullivan

Before Who:
Films: The Strangers: Chapter 1 (2024)
Television: The Spanish Princess* [5 episodes as Henry Stafford (2020)] / FBI - International: Black Penguin (2022) / Casualty: Armour Plated (2023)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1353g / Nu-Who #594g

Name: Ellie-Grace Cashin [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Suzie Pentecost

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: None

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1353h / Nu-Who #594h

Name: Jamie Barnard [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Dot And Bubble
Character(s): Brewster Cavendish

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: Doctors: I Feel Bad For My Neck (2019) / Humanity [6 episodes as David (2020)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

[Susan Foreman]

The thirteenth in an occasional series:

'Doctor Who' as featured in other medium

Diana Rigg as Emma Peel in a 1965 episode of 'The Avengers' entitled 'Death At Bargain Prices'

[will graham]

Now she would have made a great doctor!

[iank]

Apparently Fear Her is being re-edited with another newsreader and will then be back up.

[Susan Foreman]

Guest actors appearing in ROGUE who have previously appeared in the show:

• Millie Gibson (Ruby Sunday)
• Michelle Greenidge (Carla Sunday)
• Susan Twist (The Portrait)

Who: Before And After #1536a / Nu-Who #595a

Name: Jonathan Groff [1985 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Rogue

Before Who:
Films: Pretty / Handsome (2008), Taking Woodstock (2009), Twelve Thirty (2010), The Conspirator (2010), C.O.G. (2013), Frozen [as the voice of Kristoff] (2013), The Normal Heart (2014), American Sniper (2014), Looking (2016), Blindspotting (2018), Frozen II [as the voice of Kristoff] (2019), Hamilton [as King George III] (2020), The Matrix Resurrections [as Agent Smith] (2021), Knock at the Cabin (2023), A Nice Indian Boy (2024)

Television: One Life to Live [11 episodes as Henry Mackler (2007)] / Glee* [14 episodes as Jesse St. James (2010-2015)] / The Good Wife: Live From Damascus (2012) / Boss* [10 episodes as Ian Todd (2012)] / Looking [18 episodes as Patrick Murray (2014-2015)] / O.T.P. [5 episodes as Dennis (2015-2016)] / Mindhunter [19 episodes as Holden Ford (2017-2019)] / The Simpsons: Bart's Not Dead [voice only] (2018) / Invincible: You Look Kinda Dead [voice only] (2021) / And Just Like That...: Diwali (2022) / Life & Beth: Pancakes (2022) / Lost Ollie [4 episodes as Ollie (2022)] /

After Who:
Films: Ultraman: Rising [voice only] (2024)
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1536b / Nu-Who #595b

Name: Paul Forman [1994 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Lord Barton

Before Who:
Films: Nevrland (2019), Seagull (2019)
Television: The Spanish Princess [2 episodes as King Francis (2020)] / Frank of Ireland [2 episodes as Stephane (2021)] / McDonald & Dodds: A Billion Beats (2022) / Riches [5 episodes as Luke (2022)] / Emily in Paris* [6 episodes as Nicolas de Leon (2022)] / Father Brown: The Beast Of Wedlock (2023)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1536c / Nu-Who #595c

Name: Camilla Aiko [? - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Emily Beckett

Before Who:
Films: Lee (2023)
Television: Fifteen-Love (2023)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

Who: Before And After #1536d / Nu-Who #595c

Name: Maxim Ays [1998 - ]
Year(s): 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): Lord Gilpin

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: Still So Awkward [12 episodes as Seb (2021)] / Sanditon [6 episodes as Captain William Carter (2022)] / The Larkins [6 episodes as the Reverend Ian Candy (2022)] / Boarders [5 episodes as Felix (2024)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: None

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The Doctor (Peter Davison) and Peri (Nicola Bryant) arrive on Androzani Minor during The Caves of Androzani (1984)

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #1537 / Nu-Who #596

Name: Indira Varma [1973 - ]
Year(s): Doctor Who: 2024
Stories: Rogue
Character(s): The Duchess Of Pemberton

Year(s): Torchwood: 2006
Stories: Everything Changes / They Keep Killing Suzie
Character(s): Suzie Costello

Note(s): Appeared in a number of Big Finish Productions audio adventures:

• In the 'Torchwood: Monthly Range' stories 'Moving Target' / 'Sync' / 'The Last Love Song of Suzie Costello'
• In the 'Torchwood: Special Releases' story 'The Torchwood Archive'
• Provided the audiobook reading for the 'BBC Torchwood Novels' story 'Long Time Dead'

Before Who:
Films: Kama Sutra: A Tale of Love (1996), Clancy's Kitchen (1997), Sixth Happiness (1997), Jinnah (1998), Zehn wahnsinnige Tage (2000), The Whistle-Blower (2001), Mad Dogs (2002), Reversals (2003), Bride & Prejudice* (2004), The Quatermass Experiment [as Judith Carroon] (2005), A Waste of Shame: The Mystery of Shakespeare and His Sonnets (2005), Basic Instinct 2 (2006), Sex and Death 101 (2007), Inside the Box (2009), Anna (2013), Exodus: Gods and Kings (2014), Shakespeare's Globe: Titus Andronicus (2015), National Theatre Live: Man and Superman (2015), Una (2016), Unspeakable (2017), The Machine (2017), Close (2019), Official Secrets (2019), Present Laughter (2019), The One and Only Ivan (2020), Old Vic: In Camera - Faith Healer (2020), Crisis (2021), Silent Hours (2021), National Theatre Live: The Seagull (2022), UnEarthed (2023), Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One (2023), The Trouble with Jessica (2023), Macbeth (2024)

Television: Crucial Tales: Phoemix (1996) / Psychos [6 episodes as Dr. Martine Nichol (1999)] / Sci-Fright [as the Host (1999-2002)] / Other People's Children (2000) / In a Land of Plenty [4 episodes as Sonali Ganatra (2001)] / Attachments [4 episodes as Sasha (2000-2001)] / Arena [2 episodes, different characters (2002-2010)] / Rockface (2003) / Canterbury Tales: The Sea Captains Tale (2003) / Donovan [2 episodes as Cara Mathis (2004)] / Love Soup: They Do Not Move (2005) / Little Britain [3 episodes, different characters (2005)] / Broken News [6 episodes as Melanie Bellamy (2005)] / Rome* [14 episodes as Niobe (2005-2007)] / The Inspector Lynley Mysteries: In The Blink Of An Eye (2006) / 3 lbs. [6 episodes as Dr. Adrianne Holland (2006)] / The Whistleblowers [6 episodes as Alisha Cole (2007)] / Comanche Moon (2008) / Law & Order - Criminal Intent: Assassin (2008) / Bones: The Yanks In The UK (2008) / Moses Jones [3 episodes as Dolly (2009)] / Hustle [2 episodes as D.C.I. Lucy Britford (2010)] / Luther [6 episodes as Zoe Luther (2010)] / Human Target [13 episodes as Ilsa Pucci (2010-2011)] / Silk [6 episodes as George Duggan (2012)] / World Without End: Medieval Life And Death (2012) / Hunted [5 episodes as Natalie Thorpe (2012)] / What Remains [4 episodes as Elaine Markham (2013)] / Game of Thrones* [13 episodes as Ellaria Sand (2014-2017)] / Le Donne (2015) / New Blood: Case 3 (2016)] / Paranoid [8 episodes as Nina Suresh (2016)] / Silent Hours [3 episodes as Dr. Catherine Benson (2017)] / Patrick Melrose [3 episodes as Anne Moore (2018)] / Carnival Row [8 episodes as Piety Breakspear (2019)] / This Way Up [10 episodes as Charlotte (2019-2021)] / For Life [23 episodes as Safiya Masry (2020-2021)] / Spitting Image [16 episodes, various voices (2020-2021)] / Obi-Wan Kenobi [3 episodes as Tala (2022)] / The Capture [6 episodes as Khadija Khan (2022)] / The Legend of Vox Machina [7 episodes as the voice of Lady Allura Vysoren (2022-2023)] / Extrapolations: 2059 - Face of God (2023) / Obsession [4 episodes as Ingrid Farrow (2023)] / The Night Manager (2024)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: Creature Commandos [voice only] (2024)

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The Doctor (Matt Smith) examines one of the mysterious cubes during The Power of Three (2012)

[Gothmogxx]

See the thing is with Doctor Who these days for me is this.

Twice Upon A Time was the last genuinely good Story of Doctor Who until The Star Beast. But the last genuinely great/masterpiece Story though was World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls. Shortly after watching it, although I didn't think much of it at the time, I considered the idea that it could've been the end. As in, the definitive ending to the show. It was sheer perfection from start to finish and he could've went out in a literal blaze of glory blowing up the Cybermen. But hey, I looked forward to Whitaker years and how it was supposed to feel like the classic series.

It all sucked. For ages, I really did consider World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls as the end as I believed it was beyond salvageable.

But then Tennant and Tate came back in three Stories which ranged from being good to excellent. The 14th Doctor was like the 10th but with the more annoying traits reigned in. Tate was as brilliant as ever. It had the best ever interior TARDIS design. Yes looked at as a whole they weren't perfect (male-presenting time lord nonsense) but really for those couple of weeks, we ALL sat down as a family to watch it again and liked it. it felt like all was well, and that the 15th Doctor had a fixed and well oiled machine to pilot going forward.

And being honest, he (and RTD) didn't fail entirely to keep it going. He's actually a good Doctor when he isn't upset (more on that later). His chemistry with Ruby was brilliant. Some Stories were good like Boom, 72 Yards, Dot and Bubble and some of The Legend of Ruby Sunday/Empire of Death.

But then yes, he keeps on crying. It was actually perfect in Boom as it made sense in that context (even if Baker survived a land mine and didn't cry) but he just kept on doing it! Why?!? By the end it looked pathetic!

What was up with the Space Babies? The Devils Chord was just a below average remake of 2023's The Giggle. Rogue was boring.

I sadly had the Sutekh reveal spoiled but that aside, it still had the hairs up on the back of my neck even if other parts of The Legend of Ruby Sunday were boring.

Empire of Death? I liked UNIT vs Sutekh (whoever would've thought that would be seen onscreen even a year ago?). I liked when all the UNIT regulars died at first as I thought it was a genuinely bold way to sell Sutekh as a threat... But then Ruby's stepmom died too and when that happened you just knew that a reset was coming akin to The Last of the Timelord's. I didn't mind it there as I didn't expect it then, but I fully knew exactly what was coming here by the end. I wanted more action between the Doctor and Sutekh: like when he dominates Baker at the start of Pyramids of Mars Episode 4 but we didn't get enough. We DID get to see him take Sutekh for a walk though?!? Meh. I liked the end with Ruby meeting her real mum though.

So I'm saying it's a mixed bag thus far. I'm not happy Ruby is leaving as she's one of the assets thus far. The viewing figures are also concerning. I just get a general vibe that the show is poised for another rest after one or two more Series. And honestly, that might not be a bad thing if it ends up coming back later completely revitalised.

But at least we got the three Tennant/Tate specials. For now, they're feeling very much like how I felt with World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls, especially Wild Blue Yonder and The Giggle. It could be that they're the last really good episodes we ever get...

As a comparison, I looked forward to and enjoyed Cobra Kai Season 6 MUCH more this year than Doctor Who. I did look forward to the finale but I mean... Yeah. At least we have 1963-2017 and 2023.