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[Susan Foreman]

Key Crew working on PLANET OF FIRE who have previously worked on the show:

• Fiona Cumming (Director)
• Peter Grimwade (Writer)
• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Key Crew working on THE CAVES OF ANDROZANI who have previously worked on the show:

• Graham Harper (Director)
• Robert Holmes (Writer)
• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Key Crew working on THE TWIN DILEMMA who have previously worked on the show:

• Peter Moffatt (Director)
• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Who: Before And After #1616 / Doctor Who: Key Crew: Story #136 - The Twin Dilemma

Name: Anthony Steven [1916 - 1990]

Role: Writer [4 episodes]
Year(s): 1984
Stories: The Twin Dilemma part 1 - The Twin Dilemma part 4

Before Who: Writer Credits
Films: Bernard Miles on Gun Dogs [Short] (1949), A Family Affair [Short (1950), Life in Her Hands (1951), The Horse's Mouth (1953), Man of Africa (1953), The Whiteoak Chronicles: The Building of Jalna (1955), A Flea Off Pepe (1956), Who Goes Home? (1956), Royal Foundation (1961)
Television: BBC Sunday-Night Theatre [1 episode] (1955) / Lilli Palmer Theatre [1 episode] (1955) / The Adventures of Annabel [6 episodes] (1955-1956) / Armchair Theatre [1 episode] (1957) / Duty Bound [6 episodes] (1958) / Television Playwright [1 episode] (1958) / The Sky Larks [3 episodes] (1958) / The Third Man [4 episodes] (1959-1963) / BBC Sunday-Night Play [3 episodes] (1960-1961) / Suspense [1 episode] (1963) / Swallows and Amazons [6 episodes] (1963) / Maigret [1 episode] (1963) / Dr. Finlay's Casebook [2 episodes] (1963-1970) / First Night [1 episode] (1964) / Redcap [1 episode] (1964) / The Count of Monte Cristo [12 episodes] (1964) / The Flying Swan [1 episode] (1965) / The Rise and Fall of Cesar Birotteau [4 episodes] (1965) / Hereward the Wake [16 episodes] (1965) / ITV Play of the Week [3 episodes] (1965-1967) / Thirteen Against Fate [1 episode] (1966) / The Three Musketeers [10 episodes] (1966-1967) / BBC Play of the Month [1 episode] (1967) / The Forsyte Saga [7 episodes] (1967) / Kenilworth [4 episodes] (1967) / Boy Meets Girl [1 episode] (1967) / Virgin of the Secret Service [2 episodes] (1968) / The Man in the Iron Mask [9 episodes] (1968) / ITV Playhouse [1 episode] (1969) / Who-Dun-It [1 episode] (1969) / The Borderers [1 episode] (1970) / Tom Brown's Schooldays [5 episodes] (1971) / The Regiment [1 episode] (1972) / Clouds of Witness [5 episodes] (1972) / Woodstock [5 episodes] (1973) / The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club [4 episodes] (1973) / The Rivals of Sherlock Holmes [2 episodes] (1971-1973) / The Nine Tailors [4 episodes] (1974) / Five Red Herrings [4 episodes] (1975) / The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie [1 episode] (1978) / All Creatures Great and Small [12 episodes] (1978-1989) / The Talisman [9 episodes] (1980-1981) / Fanny by Gaslight [4 episodes] (1981)

After Who
Films: None
Television: None

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The Cybermen on the march during Rise of the Cybermen / The Age of Steel (2006)

[Susan Foreman]

Key Crew working on ATTACK OF THE CYBERMEN who have previously worked on the show:

• Matthew Robinson (Director)
• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Note(s): There is a lot of confusion and unanswered questions as to who actually wrote 'Attack Of The Cybermen. The credited author is Paula Moore. However ... this is known to be a pseudonym used to credit the writer(s) of the story. No-one seems to know exactly the pseudonym covers! Suggestions that have been put forward include:

• Eric Saward and Paula Woolsey. A few sources suggest that Eric Saward wrote 'Attack of the Cybermen'. As the then-current script editor, this would have been forbidden under guidelines which stated that editors could not commission themselves. This led to Saward commissioning Paula Woolsey (an ex-girlfriend of his) to write elements of the script and "submit" it to him
• Ian Levine and Eric Saward. Another source suggests that Saward collaborated with Ian Levine, un-official "fan advisor" on Whoniverse continuity and associate of John Nathan-Turner, to come up with ideas that could be tied into many of the 1960 Cybermen stories. Saward took these ideas from Levine and added the Cryons, drawing on elements of 'The Tomb of the Cybermen' and provisionally entitled the story 'The Cold War'
• Paula Woolsey, Ian Levine and Eric Saward. Another source suggests that Paula Woolsey wrote 'Attack of the Cybermen', with several plot ideas contributed by Ian Levine. Woolsey being completely inexperienced with script writing, had significant assistance from Eric Saward in development and rewriting of her script
• Ian Levine. In one post on Outpost Gallifrey, Ian Levine claims full authorship for 'Attack of the Cybermen'. However, in an interview in Doctor Who Magazine 348, Eric Saward stated: "Ian only produced a couple of pages, that contained an idea - a very brief outline for the story. At the end of the day, I effectively wrote the whole thing. Yes Ian came up with some ideas, I will give him that credit, but he gives the impression that the whole concept was his and that I (Saward) just wrote it up. Despite what Ian has said Paula (Woolsey) did make a minor contribution, although she gets all the money, which isn't particularly fair. We don't talk any more."

Whoever the elusive Ms. Moore really is, she doesn't appear to have any other writing credits to her name


Key Crew working on VENGEANCE ON VAROS who have previously worked on the show:

• Ron Jones (Director)
• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Who: Before And After #1617 / Doctor Who: Key Crew: Story #138 - Vengeance On Varos

Name: Philip Martin [1938 - 2020]

Role: Writer [6 episodes]
Year(s): 1985 / 1986
Stories: Vengeance On Varos part 1 - Vengeance On Varos part 2 / The Trial Of A Time Lord part 5: Mindwarp part 1 - The Trial of A Time Lord part 8: Mindwarp part 4
Note(s):

• Write the Direct-to-DVD story 'Sil and the Devil Seeds of Arodor'
• Wrote the Target novelisations of 'Vengeance on Varos' / 'Mindwarp' / 'Mission to Magnus'
• Wrote the Telos Publishing prose story and comic strip 'Sil and the Devil Seeds of Arodor'
• Wrote the 'Doctor Who: Find Your Fate' story 'Invasion of the Ormazoids'
• Wrote the Big Finish Productions 'Doctor Who Main Range' audio adventures 'The Creed of the Kromon' / ''ntidote to Oblivion'
• Wrote the Big Finish Productions 'Lost Stories' adventure 'Mission to Magnus'

Before Who: Writer Credits
Films: None
Television: Z Cars [7 episodes] (1970-1972) / Thirty-Minute Theatre [2 episodes] (1971-1973) / New Scotland Yard [1 episode] (1972) / Play for Today [2 episodes] (1975-1982) / Gangsters [12 episodes] (1976-1978) / Turning Year Tales [1 episode] (1979) / Shoestring [1 episode] (1979) / BBC2 Playhouse [1 episode] (1980)

After Who
Films: None
Television: Star Cops [1 episode] (1987) / Tandoori Nights [1 episode] (1987) / The Bill [1 episode] (1990) / Virtual Murder [1 episode] (1992) / Flash - Der Fotoreporter [1 episode] (1992) / The Good Guys [1 episode] (1993) / Hetty Wainthropp Investigates [5 episodes] (1997-1998) / Luifel & Luifel (2001) / Doctors [1 episode] (2007)

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

"Doctor, look!" Jo Grant (Katy Manning) in The Mutants (1972)

[Susan Foreman]

Key Crew working on THE MARK OF THE RANI who have previously worked on the show:

• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Who: Before And After #1618a / Doctor Who: Key Crew: Story #139 - The Mark Of The Rani

Name: Sarah Hellings [1945 - ]

Role: Director [2 episodes]
Year(s): 1985
Stories: The Mark Of The Rani part 1 - The Mark Of The Rani part 2
Note(s): Was the last female director to direct a classic Who story

Before Who: Director Credits
Films: A Star for My Son (1979), Ain't Many Angels (1980), The World Walk (1984)
Television: Blue Peter Special Assignment [9 episodes] (1975-1981) / Blue Peter Flies the World [1 episode] (1976) / Jackanory [5 episodes] (1979) / Une maison, une histoire [1 episode] (1980) / Grange Hill [1 episode] (1981) / Angels [8 episodes] (1981-1982) / Juliet Bravo [4 episodes] (1982-1983)

After Who
Films: The Zero Option (1988), The Cater Street Hangman (1998)
Television: Howards' Way [9 episodes] (1985-1986) / Boon [4 episodes] (1987-1988) / Ruth Rendell Mysteries [1 episode] (1991) / Lovejoy [2 episodes] (1992) / Forever Green [6 episodes] (1992) / Soldier Soldier [1 episode] (1993) / Taggart [4 episodes] (1993-1998) / The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes [3 episodes] (1994) / The Glass Virgin [3 episodes] (1995) / Doctor Finlay [4 episodes] (1996) / McCallum [1 episode] (1997) / Lucy Sullivan Is Getting Married [8 episodes] (1999-2000) / Midsomer Murders [13 episodes] (2002-2008)

Who: Before And After #1618b

Name: Philip 'Pip' Baker [1929 - 2020] / Iris E. E. 'Jane' Baker [1924 - 2014]

Role: Writers [11 episodes]
Year(s): 1985 / 1986 / 1987
Stories: The Mark Of The Rani part 1 - The Mark Of The Rani part 2 / The Trial Of A Time Lord part 9: Terror Of The Vervoids part 1 - The Trial Of A Time Lord part 12: Terror Of The Vervoids part 4 / The Trial Of A time Lord part 14: The Ultimate Foe part 2 / Time And The Rani part 1 - Time And The Rani part 4
Note(s):

• Always wrote together as a team
• Co-wrote the 'Doctor Who' Target novelisations 'The Mark of the Rani' / 'Terror of the Vervoids' / 'The Ultimate Foe' / 'Time and the Rani'
• Co-wrote the 'Make Your Own Adventure with Doctor Who' book 'Race Against Time'
• Co-wrote the BBV Productions audio adventure 'The Rani Reaps the Whirlwind'
• Jane is one of only four women to be credited with writing (or co-writing) Doctor Who Target novelisations, and the only one to be involved in more than one book of this type
• It has been suggested that they were to have written a story entitled 'Gallifrey' for the cancelled 23rd series of Classic Who (with Colin Baker) or the 24th series of Classic Who (again with Colin Baker). This was prior to the hiatus. However, very little solid information exists for this story and many sources consider it to be a hoax

Before Who: Co-Writer Credits
Films: Murder Can Be Deadly (1962), Dilemma (1962), The Break (1962), Night of the Big Heat (1967), Captain Nemo and the Underwater City (1969)
Television: Kraft Mystery Theater [1 episode] (1961) / The Pursuers [4 episodes] (1961-1962) / Detective [1 episode] (1968) / Circus [6 episodes] (1975) / The Expert [1 episode] (1976) / Space: 1999 [1 episode] (1976) / Z Cars [3 episodes] (1976-1977)

After Who
Films: The Last 28 (1999)
Television: Watt on Earth [24 episodes] (1991-1992) / Ruby [4 episodes] (1991-1993)

[Susan Foreman]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

"Doctor, look!" Jo Grant (Katy Manning) in The Mutants (1972)

That was filmed at Chislehurst Caves in Kent - about 3 miles from where we are staying at the moment

It was also used as a location for the 1981 Norman J. Warren film 'Inseminoid'

Hmmm ! That gives me an idea for a feature for when the 'Before And After' thing reaches an end...

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

A promo photograph of Jacqueline Hill as Barbara Wright, who co-starred in Doctor Who from 1963-65.

[iank]

Apparently Richard Bignell has made a big booboo and accidentally shown us all what the next season blu ray set is going to be in a Twitter pic (since deleted). Looks like it's season 7, as has been predicted for some time.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The cover art of the past Doctor BBC Books novel The Suns of Caresh by Paul Saint, featuring the third Doctor and Jo Grant.It was released in August 2002.

[Susan Foreman]

Key Crew working on THE TWO DOCTORS who have previously worked on the show:

• Peter Moffatt (Director)
• Robert Holmes (Writer)
• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Key Crew working on TIMELASH who have previously worked on the show:

• Pennant Roberts (Director)
• John Nathan-Turner (Producer)

Who: Before And After #1619 / Doctor Who: Key Crew: Story #141 - Timelash

Name: Glen McCoy [1954 - ]

Role: Writer [2 episodes]
Year(s): 1985
Stories: Timelash part 1 - Timelash part 2
Note(s):

• Wrote the Target novelisation of 'Timelash'
• Wrote the 'Short Trips' story 'Dream Devils'

Before Who: Writer Credits
Films: None
Television: Angels [2 episodes] (1983)

After Who
Films: None
Television: EastEnders [7 episodes] (1985-2000) / Eldorado [4 episodes] (1992-1993) / Emmerdale Farm [9 episodes] (1993-1996)