Cannibal Ferox /Bloody Moon - Page 6

Philleh · #51 12th April 2008, 10:27 AM

I saw an uncut showing of Baise Moi on the big screen. There is more than 12 seconds missing from the DVD - the whole overly graphic gun up mans ass, and bullet exiting from mouth, is missing entirely! bah.

I'm pretty sure the sex scenes have been trimmed some too - haven't seen either version in a long, long time so I might be wrong!

vincenzo · #52 12th April 2008, 11:27 AM

The BBFC cuts to Baise Moi were 10 secs from the cinema print (the closeup of the penetration during the rape scene) and a further 2 secs from the DVD (the shot of the gun insertion into the guy's rectum). I've compared the cut/uncut DVD's and the bullet exiting the mouth, plus the hardcore sex scenes, are identical on the UK DVD.

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Philleh · #53 12th April 2008, 11:36 AM

Really? Damn - that scene with the gun seemed longer than 12 seconds, never mind only being 2! lol

vipco · #54 12th April 2008, 02:09 PM

You guys and girls are obviously far more versed in the subjects on site than i'll ever be so please excuse my ignorance. As I mentioned im new to the internet and have only really started talking on forums from last year. Before I mainly played games on my PC though I now use my PS3 for web browsing. So if there's anybody who's well known and I dont acknowledge it its not though any disrespect .

We had a good wee horror scene here in Belfast and would get are films and information from 'F' a local horror shop but due to certain elements in N.I. the shop was forced to close as both sides of the community in N.I would meet up there and back in the early 90s that was a 'no no'. So everyone just lost touch and that was that.

It wasn't till I took ill and my mobility became effected that I renewed my interest in film again and now with the Shameless site I am able to catch up on things and get the latest information.
So please excuse me if I ask a stupid question or anything like that, i've just been unable to get info on films except from books as none of my mates share my passion for horror / exploitation film.

vipco · #55 12th April 2008, 05:34 PM

Angel, could I ask you 2 questions .?RE certificates .

On some of my DVD's there's 2 certificates saying 18, one the red BBFC stamp and the other a blue 50p shape with 18 in the middle and non English writing on it. Who's the blue stamp from.?
It's on quite a few covers but HOSTEL has it.
Secondly , what does R18 cover as i've never saw any film with this rating. I think the R is for Restricted so is it a more complete version of a cut 18 rated film.?

Sorry another question , HOSTEL reminded me.
On the cover of HOSTEL it says ' Unseen Ed.' Is this a stronger version than the theatrical release or just a version with different scenes like the alternate ending. If its different than the theatrical release , then do you know if was the theatrical release unfit for home viewing.?

One more , Blu Ray disc
Does a film have to be resubmitted to the BBFC for Blu Ray release , as with scenes of violence being shown in Hi Def would this effect how the bbfc view certain scenes , like scenes of torture being in a dark room like in HOSTEL on DVD becoming that much more clearer to the viewer when seen in Hi Def. on Blu Ray disc . Would the extra clarity effect the BBFC's decision on a particular scene.
I apologise for all the questions but censorship is something I find very interesting and I just happened to get the BR discs of HOSTEL and HOSTEL 2 today and these questions came into my head.

vincenzo · #56 12th April 2008, 06:11 PM

The blue 18 certificate logo on some UK DVDs is the hallmark of the Irish censor. The words translate as The Irish Film Censor's Office.

The R18 rating is exclusively used for pornographic movies. They can only be sold in licensed & authorised sex shops in the UK. In the cases of Deep Throat, The Devil In Miss Jones and Debbie Does Dallas for example, the distributors prepared special 18-rated versions of all 3 (heavily editing the pornographic content). The R18 releases contain the explicit porn footage, though mild trims were made to The Devil In Miss Jones even for the higher certificate.

Angel · #57 12th April 2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vipco

Angel, could I ask you 2 questions .?RE certificates .

Sorry another question , HOSTEL reminded me.
On the cover of HOSTEL it says ' Unseen Ed.' Is this a stronger version than the theatrical release or just a version with different scenes like the alternate ending. If its different than the theatrical release , then do you know if was the theatrical release unfit for home viewing.?

One more , Blu Ray disc
Does a film have to be resubmitted to the BBFC for Blu Ray release , as with scenes of violence being shown in Hi Def would this effect how the bbfc view certain scenes , like scenes of torture being in a dark room like in HOSTEL on DVD becoming that much more clearer to the viewer when seen in Hi Def. on Blu Ray disc . Would the extra clarity effect the BBFC's decision on a particular scene.
I apologise for all the questions but censorship is something I find very interesting and I just happened to get the BR discs of HOSTEL and HOSTEL 2 today and these questions came into my head.

Hello Vipco,

Unseen edition = unrated version. MPAA cuts restored.

I'm pretty sure that companies submitting Blue Ray discs don't have to re-submit simply because they offer a brighter transfer, otherwise every Blue Ray disc would have to be re-submitted. Very much doubt it anyway. According to the BBFC if the content or ratio is different then a re-submission is required, but unless anyone knows any different then as far as I know a re-submission is not necessary because of a brighter transfer.

vipco · #58 12th April 2008, 08:02 PM

Thanks .

Strange that films for sale in the UK carry an Irish censor rating.
I know that when Bad Lieutenant came out the UK version was different than the Irish version as the Irish version was cut more for religious reasons.

Can the R18 not be used on violent films that haven't met the BBFC criteria for a standard 18 cert such as MSP.?

As you know the in's & out's of the BBFC are they strict on porn or are they falling into line with countries like Holland, Germany etc.
I am in no way implying that you are a fan of porn, im asking you due to your knowledge of censorship in the UK and other countries.

Angel · #59 12th April 2008, 08:05 PM

The R18 doesn't allow violence. MSP wouldn't qualify anyway because it's not a sex work.

vincenzo · #60 12th April 2008, 08:21 PM

I have a grand total of 4 porn films in my collection (the 3 R18 titles mentioned above plus an import copy of Behind The Green Door), simply for their controversial and curiosity value. Generally I loathe them.

The case of 'anything goes' doesn't apply to UK R18 releases. In fact these are cut more than anything else and the BBFC are extremely tough on what can/can't be seen in them. This is what amazed me about Baise Moi. The BBFC's policy must have changed as the film contains some pretty strong hardcore footage (including fellatio) which would never have been allowed up until a few years ago. In fact the whole film made my glasses steam up and even the cat fled the room.